CreateMyCity Forum

The Helper

I would like to introduce a new tool made by TheHelper.net's very own Acehart!

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What would your town look like if it had twice the population? (Bigger)
Half the transport? (Lacks streets)
Double shops? (Well, more shops...)
A decent name, like AceHart? ()
Your own name and (nearly) random values? (No idea)
No people? (Boring, what else...)

Find it out:
The Incredible City Simulator
http://www.thehelper.net/forums/citywhatif.php

The time it takes (yep, all on your comp, not here) depends mostly on population.
You may try with 5000000, but don't be surprised if you get a little warning...
I can't possibly be responsible for sudden heat problems, unexplained attraction to your neighbor's cat or similar, related topics.

The other values too, but much less.
Population is clearly the killer.

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This tool is exact - it does not guess. It will show your city with whatever values you tell it your city has - make sure you type your City Name right though - that is what it is all based off of.

Albyland

ok I agree that it's written in the code.. but I think that everytime the city area increase the area added is random .. but when area is added it is recordered and will not change anymore

Click over my two Eggs please

The Helper

You might be right but you have to understand that computers do random numbers by a random number seed. That random number seed is the city name. If you start a Random Number generator off with the same seed it will produce random numbers but they will be the same for each seed. If the city randomly redid the terrain each time it expanded it would have to store that information for the city build somewhere. The only information passed to the Flash part of the program is the XML file and the Bulletins. Try the city simulator Acehart did on your city with your same XML factors and see what it does. Remember that the flash simulator Acehart did is hosted on thehelper.net and has no access to the MyMiniCity site database or anything. How could it get your city right if the expansion was random? The guy that did this is good and he assures me it is done this way.

Hitsugaya

Albyland

so you think that when I create a city everything is written...???

Click over my two Eggs please

Hitsugaya

I think that your city name and pop/env/ind/etc... totally define your city, yes

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The Helper

Its not already written so to say. It just uses a set number of factors to determine appearance. There are literally millions and millions of different combinations and since you can't have the same city name every city will be different.

It is just like any game where random maps are displayed. Its the same concept. The outcome is as close to random and unique to the average person so the design has succeeded. In programming we try to give the results in the simplest way possible and sometimes the most elegant solutions are simple.

To summarize - the game is contained in the Flash program you see when you go to your city page. The flash programs accepts the XML values from the MyMiniCity Server, the city name, and maybe some other stuff (region code, etc but most likely all in the XML) and the bulletins. The Flash part of the game creates the city from that. If the flash program is given the same values it will generate the same city for those values. There are millions of combinations of values and each one produces something different - but if you give those same values again the game will create the same city. Hope this clarifies.

Hitsugaya

I don't think so. As I said, for miniville, the future tool in the myminicity toolbox predicted very well the cities' looking just with the number of inhabitants (because the ind env and so on was in general equilibrated, so depended on population)

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